Ventress ran from Mace. Using 4 blades means superior fighting skills. Pong Krell has 2 double-bladed lightsaber, Pong Krell must be the greatest duelist of all time. Yet they are considerably more powerful than either Maul or Ventress. While Grievous tagged Ventress with a good kick, he ultimately lost against amped Ventress but fought amped Maul to an absolute stalemate until he was distracted and BFRd. I already have a tentative winner in my head, but I'm willing to examine the evidence of other's, first. Somehad red skin. Honestly, it depends if only canon feats are allowed. It may not display this or other websites correctly. He had too much ego to be a cheap fighter. @bigsambino87 Yes, Legends is allowed. Rules. With the most choreography? It wasn't fatigue it was his age, he was pushing his 60's and knew once he was locked away with Maul from Obi-Wan he was fucked in the novel. Ahsoka Tano and Anakin Skywalker* vs Asajj Ventress Qui-Gon Jinn vs Darth Maul*-Anakin Skywalker, Ahsoka Tano, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Rey, and Mace Windu* vs. Darth Vader and Darth Maul. He is a Dathomirian Zabrak Nightbrother and Dark Acolyte who lived during the Clone Wars. A talented young Togruta who was originally under the care of Jedi Master Plo Koon, she was later instructed by Jedi Grand Master Yoda to seek Skywalker's tutelage. The first time Obi-Wan fights alongside Asajj Ventress, but the second time he's on his own, and out manned as Maul has his brother alongside him. Mace Windu is also motherfucking SAMUEL L. JACKSON. It was a bad example. Before Darth Maul has the Bionic Legs he has Double-Bladed Lightsaber and Asajj Ventress has two lightsabers on her hand. @geistalt: TPM Maul didn't' really have any force feats, but almost beating Qui-gon and Obi-wan at the same time is one of the best lightsaber feats out of the movies and possibly Maul's best dueling feat. Savage Opress is the brother of Darth Maul and his apprentice. Keeping up with bloodlusted Quinlan Vos who's Dooku tier? Photo credit: Lucasfilm/The Clone Wars 6. Asajj Ventress and the Nightsisters enlist Darth Maul's kinsman Savage Opress in their plot against Count Dooku. Dathomir, which was outside of Republic territory, was ruled by the Nightsisters, a clan of witches that used the Force in the form of Magick to manipulate nature around them and control their male counterparts, the Nightbrothers. So what would happen if we considered Maul in TCW? If it's the one from the comics, she took on alone both Anakin Skywalker in his godmode phase AND Obi-Wan, and was whomping them for quite a bit before Emokin pulled an unlikely move out of his ass as usual. @darthduelist9: I said she could probably win 2 or 3 rounds because of he combination of Makashi and Jar Kai. Everyone has … @yousufkhan1212: You have to have some advantage over your opponent in order to win against them. TPM Maul should lose, TCW Maul wins, in a good fight. It's not like Maul could beat Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan with one-blade, it's not like he beat Qui-Gon at Tatooine, and then Obi-Wan with one-blade. He's not older than Qui-Gon. I can't tell how great your logic is. Ahsoka Tano, was the Padawan of famed Jedi Knight Anakin Skywalker during the Clone Wars. Because if not, I don't see how she beats Maul. Obi-Wan and Asajj Ventress vs. Darth Maul and Savage Opress (season 4, episode 22) Obi-Wan teams up with Asajj Ventress to fight against Darth Maul … Dooku used the Force to heavily augment himself and he was a match for Windu, same with Sidious (although he's actually younger than Dooku and probably around the same age as Jinn, if not potentially younger than him) as well. Fine. If that is the case, then Maul has no feats from before TPM. @yousufkhan1212: I don't know why but a lot of those images aren't showing up for me. Darth Maul is … Count Dooku was born of aristocratic royalty on the picturesque planet of Serreno. Outdueling 4 armed Grevious while Maul had to resort to force against only 2 armed Grevious (both fights happened on Dathomir btw). Savage broke free from Ventress’ Control and attempted to not only kill Dooku but also her as well resulting in him becoming a target for both the Republic, Separatists, and Ventress herself but all this did was lead him to his new Master and Brother… Darth Maul. I don't think Age is the proper excuse. Tyranus is easily several decades older than Sidious/Palpatine. @shootingnova: To be honest, Season 4 Maul (who should be a perfect equal of TPM Maul) outmatched Obi-Wan, someone who I place above Ventress, so the margin in the relevant area's should be quite noticeable. The idea of Ventress defeating Maul in some scenario is unlikely because the chances of Maul winning is much higher than the chances of Ventress winning. People bring Maul's fight with weakest Obi and Qui-Gon but how about Ventress keeping up with way superior Kenobi and Anakin on two seperate ocasions? Maul was already a recognized Sith Lord. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. It's 13.5 year timeskip between Episode I to Episode III. Savage Opress is a major antagonist in Star Wars: The Clone Wars Season 3 and later 5. Savage Opress, Darth Maul, and Asajj Ventress From the current Clone Wars tv show and around that time period. You're correct, other than him being 20 years younger, about 20, more like 13. She's going to outduel him? Darth Maul vs Asajj Ventress Discussion in 'Outskirts Battledome Archive' started by Big Mom, Jun 15, 2009. Outperforming Maul against Obi-Wan? Team Luke Skywalker vs Team Darth Vader # If Legends are allowed, then he has quite a bit. And Sidious was the one who tested him and Sidious almost lost that fight. Ventress comes close in quite a few areas, but in all the other areas, Maul's ahead by a considerable distance and Ventress has no advantages against him whatsoever. Mainly for taking out the likes of Qui-Gon one on one, outside of Kenobi helping out. Again not likely. Galagatus 11 mo 14 d . I don't see any way how she could win against him, especially since he surpasses her in most relevant areas. Story: Asajj going up against Maul. @alextheboss: Phantom Menace Maul was way weaker than Clone Wars Maul (or, rather, had far fewer feats). Depends which Ventress. But definitely not every time, I think that's taking it too far. http://comicvine.gamespot.com/profile/yousufkhan1212/blog/darth-maul-tpm-as-a-force-user-how-powerful-is-he/127694/. Male Dathomirians had horns, however, f… Both Yoda and Sidious are older than Qui-Gon. Bloodlust allowed. Dooku was about 83 years old by Revenge of Sith, he was in his late 60's to early 70's during Phantom Menance. Can Ventress take Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan simultaneously in combat? Revan Vs. Count Dooku, Savage Opress, Darth Maul and Asajj Ventress. ... Star Wars: The Clone Wars season finale recap: Darth Maul vs. Obi-Wan. Mainly for taking out the likes of Qui-Gon one on one. Messages: 29,038 Likes Received: 187 Trophy Points: 668 Joined: Dec 1, 2008. Star Wars: The Clone Wars - Season 3 Episode 14 Witches of the Mist [1080p] True, he nearly DID finish them both... and only got beaten by Obi-Wan because he didn't expect him to use his master's lightsaber... @darthduelist9: 10/10 is taking it too far. Ventress should more than capable of winning a few rounds. The Dathomirian female Asajj Ventress was born on the planet Dathomir in the latter years of the Galactic Republic's reign as the preeminent governing body in the galaxy. Windu was in his early 40's during episode 1, Jinn was in his late 50's, Dooku was pushing nearly 70 at the same time. @yousufkhan1212: So she's going to outduel a more skilled, unpredictable and physically stronger opponent? @silverrings: Maul as of TCW defeated a Vong in unarmed combat in the novel Lockdown. During this time, Talzin worked alongside the Sith Lord, Darth Sidious, who ultimately betrayed Talzin and took her son Darth Maul from her. TPM Maul means TCW Ventress wins either way, since he doesn't have any pre-TPM feats in Canon, and all he has in Legends is that durability feat of being able to survive being stranded without nourishment for however many days, break a few droids, and bite and lash out at Palpatine with the expectation that his master'd kill him AFAIK. @jeditraining101 is this canon feats only, or legends? Windu was even older than Qui Gon. I like Asajj better but Maul murderstomps. @alextheboss: I tried fixing tthe problem, I can't do anything about it. (Cue Maul, Savage and Vizsla - … This is the battle to the death. Maul is more on Dooku's tier. Born on Dathomir, he lived in his village until Asajj Ventress, former Sith Apprentice to Count Dooku, came to his village and did a series of tests to see who could be the best tool for her revenge. My money's on Maul. She would barely even beat Qui-gon, if that. Ventress' feat is better. @darthduelist9: You don't even have to be as skilled, unpredictable and physically strong opponent to win a few rounds. @bigsambino87: Sure, that is the chronology of it, but i'd like confirmation from the OP before i get thinkin' :P it's crucial, as without those feats Maul can't win this, but with them it's such a close fight. As far as I remember, she is soundly defeated only when she battles Windu and Anakin in full blown Darkside mode. I don't see Ventress replicating that. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. But you can still see them if you open them up in another tab by right clicking on the images and click on "Open Link in New tab". And SirfizzWhizz is probably going to find this thread and rip on everyone saying Maul wins 10/10 or rag dolls her. Don't know where your getting that age from for because Windu is at least 20 years younger than Jinn according to the New Essential Guide to Characters in Star Wars. If they both get Clone Wars feats then it's a super duper close fight, in my opinion, and i couldn't say who wins. So Maul doesn't get CW feats? However, this changed when a sister named Talzin became the clan's Mother. :)) This is why Sidious used 2 blades against Maul, but he used 1 blade against Yoda, Sidious couldn't beat Maul with one-blade. And a series of huge slashes and quick manoeuvers?… The Nightsisters' clan developed on the mysterious planet of Dathomir. Not likely. Makes it a bit difficult to compare. 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