If you truly are 14 years old and your motives are pure, then thank you for sharing your perspective. Thank you for this!!!! I’m not sure why you think my comment above says that or if this was just a comment in general. I really do not know the CC you speak of. I really struggled with whether or not to approve it. My 2e child isn’t like the 2e child of any of my readers who have one. We found several things: •the expense of CC outweighed dual-credit at our local college which is $150 per credit hour. Sallie is a published author, former campus ministry staff member, and autodidact. It’s just proof that God created a wonderfully diverse humanity with bents and giftings in all different directions! I am having the same issue. (who, by the way, sounds disgraceful.) If an app or update that you recently installed caused problems with your PC, you can restore Windows back to an earlier point in time, called a restore point. Does that make sense? That is just one of my bad experiences, but I, nor my family saw this as a company issue, but rather an issue within the community. I think CC can probably be a very positive experience for kids if they have a learning style that fits well with the program. Evalyn, I am sure it’s too late for this comment, several years after the fact, but I want to encourage you that your experience is very valid, and a testimony to the good homeschooling of your mother and the community you were in, as well as to the character you display in your careful writing on this topic. Was working in a CMYK image and suddenly my transform controls disappeared and all I got when I used the key command for free transform was a little pink dot at the middle of the layer I had selected. As a director, I ALWAYS recommended that people visit as many campuses as they can within reasonable driving distance. You sound like a good tutor, which gives you a lot of credibility which I will not refuse to give credit where credit is due. In fact, most of the kids in my class never did either MM, or MOE. One way around it to carry on working would be to not use Photoshop 2019 until they fix this. When CC came to our area a few years ago, I checked it out since I had taught for a year in a Classical Christian school and I was very familiar with the concept of classical education. 2. (Just like memorizing the alphabet was not wasted because you need to know that to read and spell.) I hope my explanation of why I find your two comments somewhat suspect makes my position clear. There is something you need to know about this program: for every tutor who is wonderful, CC didn’t ask them to be wonderful or train them to be so. If I am their teacher right now in these years, I ought to be with them, especially on the one day they go to the “co-op” with others. OVERALL: •Ask tons of questions. HOWEVER, did any of the Borton’s say this to her? Please provide a meaningful description or better yet start a new thread. Moms like me can benefit from your perspective for sure. Both things can’t be true at the same time. You said: “but to say it doesn’t fit kids with special needs is untrue, as I’ve seen the opposite be true.”. ), 6 Reasons Why We Changed Our Mind and Stopped Spanking, Occupational Therapy for Dysgraphia or Writing Problems, 5 Reasons Why We Love Our Homeschool Co-op, Why We Changed Our Mind about Celebrating Halloween, Negotiating With My Child – The Why and How, Why I Homeschool in the Afternoon and Not the Morning, https://sallieborrink.com/category/gifted-children/raising-gifted-children-in-the-christian-faith/, Teachers Who Become Homeschoolers Are the Indicator Species, Why We Decided to Stop Eating Together as a Family, When the Valedictorian with an Education Degree Embraces Unschooling, 12 Books That Will Rock Your Beliefs About Education and Learning, Sunk Cost Mistakes in Parenting, Homeschooling, and Life, An Honest Look at the Cons of Becoming a Teacher. But here are other things I remember: I remember dyslexics with low working memory and word recall being dead last in every memory game. I agree that CC is not perfect, and that it is not a good fit for some families. But I do not think that someone who loves Jesus is automatically a great teacher and incapable of damage. After a year in a CC community, I’m absolutely shocked by the attitude of the CC crowd! For others, it will be disastrous. Everything from CC says to come visit, etc etc. It is never implied that to the parent or student that MM is the end goal. I would hate for someone to read this and think that every single community is rigid and perfectionist and performance driven. So instead of having MORE freedom and flexibility as a homeschoool parent, one actually has less in the Challenge program. This one doesn't make sense to me at all. A good tutor takes it and gets the children excited about doing. Wood also has a grain direction. For us the writing assignments were too vague and there wasn’t enough support for the students. After two hours of proofing with no break, she looked up at me and said these words: “Good job, who knew you knew all that?” (in a mono-tone/sarcastic tone), with that she then patted me on the back un-enthusiastically, and walked off. I have a love-hate with CC. The majority of kids don’t do it because either they don’t want to, or the aren’t able to master all the material, and neither are the parents in most instances. Also, your situation encounter about: “It’s only one day out of the week.”, and how your director hated kids: IS TRULY DISGUSTING!! No one is getting rich. . My name is Sandy. And I have my oldest two on full or nearly full international scholarships, so I think what I did worked pretty well–and yet people with young kids hear we’re not involved with CC and give me that sometimes. The primary reason we left is similar to what Robin wrote – my kids are excellent students and the program wasn’t a good fit, and because of what Sallie tangentially referred to above, it wasn’t worth our valuable time. Also - am pretty unhappy at the changes to free transform tool. I remember a substitute tutor who slapped one of my children and then was promoted not only to have her own community but to be a Support Manager. The rest I agree 100%!!! That’s not what my readers look for from me. HELP! My daughter was extremely shy and it took her 8 weeks to build up the courage to give a weekly presentation, but when she did it she was so proud. The whole reason for me seeking out & paying for education is because I feel ill-equipped in areas where my student needs support-we found that an “introduction” to the concept was NOT what we signed up for. I decided to just approve it. Big Bend Community College Intermediate Algebra MPC 099 Lab Notebook Intermediate Algebra Lab Notebook by Tyler Wallace is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported License. A little sweetness has left the Region. I hope this post will help families as they think through their options so they make a choice that works well for them – whatever that choice may be! If you want to switch it, just change your preferences. I still feel my point was credible because, like I said, I struggle with talking in front of others, which supports my point in that I didn’t like to recite in front of tutors, parents or my peers. Yet, we don’t share the same interests, so I’m an outsider, which is fine for social things, but not when it comes to school related matters. God can use this in your life.”, You know what they said then, Evalyn? I appreciate your article. I’ve approved EVERY SINGLE POSITIVE CC comment in this thread. And the experiences of friends of mine went up much further than that. And they picked the wrong person to push around. Thanks for taking the time to leave a thoughtful comment! The reality was that I desperately needed a different curriculum and a different pace for my son! Hello Im an Editor for a clan and for some reason the saber plug in effect won't work on my 2010 MacBook Pro on Adobe After Affects CC 2015 is there something wrong with my device or with my application please let me know and if you know the answer for my problem I would appreciate it if you would email it to : You really put into words all my jumbled thoughts about Classical Conversations. 2. You’re in a different season. Well said, Elizabeth! https://sallieborrink.com/category/gifted-children/, I have been in a CC community for 10 years, have graduated out 3 students, and have 2 more young Challenge students. In schools, teachers strive to have children doing activities where children are doing the higher level skills, which naturally result in the remembering and understanding. My daughter was severely bullied in public school and though she views many issues very differently than her fellow Challenge B students, they embraced her and cheered on her growth every step of the way. Sallie don’t be discouraged by people who have reacted negatively, keep doing reviews and helping those who need to see your reviews when it comes to making choices for their gifted child. And no, they would NEVER allow for someone with a learning disability to have any sort of accommodations. I have to add that the tutors expected word for word recitation of these sentences and lists of words. It must not be his way of learning. She loves to memorize and loves to perform, but she is bored in the classroom, which is my problem. See photo, how bad it is on corner outside mixed shop row is not that clear, but the pool of water is long, going all round the bend, it also stretches almost across the whole width of that side of the road, and is ankle deep, this is where people try to cross to get to and from the shops. There was neither recognition of student character at the end of the year nor recognition of interesting bits about the students. That’s the beauty of building a community. Thank you for your kind words about my blog and what I do here. One of the things people say they love about it is how amazing it is to hear the kids recite or perform all of the facts they have learned. What makes them outliers is the fact that they don’t fit into any box neatly. I know that no conversation will make the group like me or my child. In fact, people who have done CC and written negative reviews have been pressured to take them down. Galaxy S20 FE’s biggest problem hasn’t been fixed yet. That doesn’t mean it’s bad and no one should make that choice, what it DOES mean is that our children, lifestyles, learning styles, beliefs are different and our curriculum choices reflect that. But I was a member of SEVERAL free groups, and you know, it is disruptive to have a different class every week because parents don’t bother to show. She was also told you be content, and trust the method. The thought of sending them to school somewhere may look really wonderful on some days; but God has called me to this for now. Number 2 says: “Mastery is not everything. So parents have to stay so they can learn from the tutors, but anyone can become a tutor if they attend a couple of days of training. Why do they have to mess with everything? This is concerning, especially when high school credits are involved. Thank you for this review. in fact, I wasn’t very good at it either. This made no sense to me then and still doesn’t. I wanted to offer another perspective. Also this year the class discussion methods were lacking because there was so little student participation because of instruction style. I found if I opened an old psd and copies something from it and pasted it into my new doc they bounding box showed up /:[. There is a supply fee that pay for everything a child will need throughout the year in class. (There is even a campus in our region which is 30% autistic/ special needs students! Are you aware of the answers given to people who have questions who then go to their directors? Our purpose to be there was to learn how to write better, not just do it to get it done. Because it is enforced heavily in some places, and lightly in others. I recommend you read a wonderful book called “Growth Mindset” by Carol Dweck. Perfectionism and the expectations of performance are a terrible fit for many gifted/2e kids which is one of the points of my post. In fact, CC very very often downplays skill and downplays master teachers. Feels like a cult to me at times…, YES!!!!! There is not time for “rabbit trailing” in that schedule, in fact, tutors present new grammar in a way that the parent can easily mimic at home for practice. Volkswagen CC in Virginia, United States Mar 2013 - Jun 2018: Mar 2014 10000 mi: Door handle switch wouldn't lower window when pulled. http://101daysofhomeschooling.blogspot.com/p/challenge.html. I had five children in the program. We celebrate each achievement. When it was brought up, do you think they did the honest thing and accepted their part in such a bogus ad? It wasn’t a fit for us. Consider the goal and then find multiple ways to the goal that allow for multiple humans with multiple backgrounds and mental processes to be able to access it. I’m sorry you feel the people you have met don’t seem to possess the humility God tells us to have. She’s making judgements about what might work for her child and what probably won’t. This has changed many companies and many units. But as I went on mentoring new homeschoolers, I kept hearing about CC, and finally started hearing from people who were thinking about homeschooling who thought it was “too expensive” and “too rigid”. That is what CC community is all about! I have "Show Transform Controls" checked and I still can't see them. On Twitter, some iPhone fans suggested that the jumbo smartphone is just not compatible with skinny jeans. That is really the focus of my entire website. Sarcasm does not equal authority and a superior knowledge that trumps another person’s needs simply because they aren’t the same as your own. I have had gracious tutors, Mrs. Brooke. She is not a performer. And then there is the occasional company that believes negatives couldn’t possibly exist in their perfectly designed program. Everything doesn’t work for everyone and most of us want to know WHY something didn’t work so we can make an informed choice. We did our own math because Saxon is horrible and he didn’t get it. In fact, it is a really sad story … but when they scheduled a “reconciliation” phone call to have the tutor who slapped my son solve the issue with me … the Regional Manager tried to get me to apologize to the tutor who slapped my son. The admin might say that we are responsible for teaching our kids at home (yes, we are) but by 9th grade I wanted valuable instruction and discussion during their hours at the co-op, not for my kids to spend time with a bunch of teenagers in a room. So, when I tried to delete the “Evalyn C.” comment, I found there was no way of doing that. If your car doesn't seem to ride like it used to, you may have a problem down below. To Caroline? She gave her reasons and they are helpful and confirming for those of us who have decided not to participate in CC. (And, mind you, this response was layers deep. No one mom has all the ideas or all of the answers. Children who are 2e are all so different depending on their diagnosis. I’ll do it. Thanks for the answer I thought I was crazy! Truly. In fact, you may have had gracious, wonderful, intelligent tutors who designed your classes to be child-friendly and respectful of children. Sallie – thanks for sharing this! I loved the geography and mapping the world and the anatomy where we learned and drew all the body systems. However, I wanted to give a perspective of a 14 year old (CH. And, by the way, when you attempted to use your words to manipulate Sallie into feeling bad for not wanting to stay with her daughter and then claimed that you were doing nothing of the sort, your logical fallacies were quite obvious. I am certain that you saw CC’s rigidity as an outsider: seeing it for the first time can be daunting. She shut a child down from singing memory work. Thank god it's just not me! While they all do the same basic curriculum, each community is essentially a franchise. She’ll probably go home and do more research online because that’s what homeschool moms do. . … Pothole on walton street just past bend going towards bucks cc building Show reporter’s name Reported in the Pothole category anonymously at 08:58, Mon 21 October 2019 For example, in Challenge III, if students have not mastered Latin vocabulary or complex grammar, they are able, nonetheless, to translate Caesar because they are familiar enough with the concepts to recognize them. Thank you for your offer and best wishes as you homeschool your children in whatever way is best for your family. This solution did not work for me, neither did the legacy compositing. One benefit I have found in our classical co-op is the variety of learning styles. Thank you for writing back, I truly appreciate it, in all honesty. Do their stories not count? In fact, a very small fraction of our CC communities (we’ve been part of three now) even attempt MM. Solved: Okay so basically i have done some simple rotations on a 3d cube ive created from jpeg images and it looks fine in front camera and custom cameras but - 9408248 When you are parenting a child who doesn’t fit the normal parameters, you look at everything very differently.”. I don't even see a check box for "Show Free Transform Controls." Solved: Okay so basically i have done some simple rotations on a 3d cube ive created from jpeg images and it looks fine in front camera and custom cameras but - 9408248 And if you are interested find a campus that fits you and your family because I do think some are different than others! Overall I don’t think CC is for everyone but I think it can supplement various styles of home education. I’m even aware of tutors and some in leadership who do not adhere to Christian values and ethics. You seem old enough to be given accurate information and to withstand discussion. I just hope no one thinks your comments are anything but a vague opinion of someone who only glanced at something before decrying it bad for anyone who doesn’t want an expensive, strict program with an obsession for perfection. But it’s not for everyone. ?Teacher, Tutor, Introducer??? My 12 year old will teach a subject. You are free to leave a comment and share your perspective. I appreciate your remarks on your experience in CC. The training does NOT train tutors to be wonderful or even to know the material. A PG person who is passionate about guitar may have more in common with a person who is also passionate about it, rather than a PG person whose passion and gifts are sculpture or math. -Evalyn. And you are correct that in class, they are to just recite all those memory facts and not to go deeper into the subjects. He is 6 years old and my husband said we should stick with it, so I signed up for a 3rd year. BUT, this is WHY we homeschool. I also said that this was no personal attack against you, several times. Be kind and respectful, give credit to the original source of content, and search for duplicates before posting. I’ve been in CC for 2 years now, signed up for a 3rd year and it has been a battle. I would love to hear more about why Challenge was not a good fit for your child. They they kept that disclosure to themselves (which is the primary concern that was being discussed)? In fact, I did most of my reciting without singing or dancing. First, as a Challenge level parent, I have the option to leave the campus. So, regarding your first sentences: I was not aware she meant that, so thank you for pointing that out. No one would object to me saying that I researched such and such curriculum and this is why I didn’t think it would work with my daughter. If there is one thing I have learned, it is that I have to research and take one year at a time. But I just wanted to clarify the “Why” of the memory work and not branching out from that in the 3 hour community day. What is professional training? Lol I find one star reviews much more helpful. CC offered a number of things that interested me including the advertised community aspect. This mother did. I do college instruction part time in the subjects of business and accounting on the side so I am not unfamiliar with structure. You are the primary teacher, you homeschool, right? They only want YOU to be a humble learner, but they never make a mistake. But many of the tutors are parents who are tutoring to offset the cost of their own child attending. But I did get the drift when I broached the cost concern that went something like this, “But dont you want to give your kids the best?” Why yes, yes I do. Then LEigh Bortins, who started it, realized these highschool kids didn’t know foundational things that were critical to what they needed to know in high school, so she developed the Foundations program, which is all the memory work. And their test scores! I updated to CC 2019 yesterday and now when I use the transform tool, the squares on my image are gone. What are the Eight Disciplines (8D)? And the multiple bad experiences of people around the nation are a testament to the health of this organization. But please leave one comment with one name. I was losing my mind over it. Return them during the add/drop period of the semester for a full refund. So if I am correct, that doesn’t even include the cost of books. Rebecca, I’m not sure that we are getting bent out of shape (at least I am not). Another common complaint with bikes is the poor performance of the machine. With 3 kids enrolled in CC, 2 this next year in Challenge levels, I absolutely work hard in CC tutoring and directing. Here are some well-known faces from Sundance over the years, as they brought their early movies to the festival. my oldest is in Challenge A this year and seeing foundations and essentials come together has been awesome! But in the future, I believe biometry will completely take over the need to manually sign-in to anywhere. •we loved the syllabus. It was more the ‘tone’ of some messages rather than differing opinions. Excellent points, Esther & Sallie! These friends are community. They get cancelled often, people leading jump out, or you-name-it. I respect that you asked your daughter, however, if you would’ve asked me when I was younger, my answer would’ve been the opposite, which supports my point “no child is the same”. , Amen. I’m not knocking CC but just offering a path out of the guilt if you feel it is not for you. In Bloom’s Taxonomy of thought, he lists it as so in order from least challenging to most: remember, understand, apply, analyze, evaluate, create. The indices of refraction are estimated from Figure 32-28 as 1.642 for 465 and 1.619 for 652 nm. Anyway, I’m sure you can tell I felt strongly about our positive experience and just wanted to make sure there were some balanced views on this program for those considering it. Copyright © 2020 Adobe. I’m glad people are discussing it and my post has provided a way for people to express their opinions and share their experiences. In contrast, she said ours was very laid back, relaxed, and exactly what her kids needed. I’ve always said CC had a slightly cult-ish sway and have been careful not to drink the Kool-aid, and based on your (graceless) comment alone, I will definitely stick to that mantra and warn other parents to do the same. Don’t get defensive, I am not discrediting you at all. In principle I loved the assignments but I thought the students needed more scaffolding in order to learn to do them well. I would like to remind the blogger, Sallie, and this person that it is inappropriate to give lengthy replies and argue online with a 14-year-old. It is our mission to get you back on the road quickly, 'keeping your car dependable'. My 10 year old explains his building projects. Some are natural performers, and that’s okay. The things I brought up about CC would not work well for her or us as a family. Hi! I was going to take the time to respond to each of your points (including the condescending ones) and realized I don’t want to use valuable time in my day to do so. The 2013 Volkswagen CC has 198 problems & defects reported by CC owners. All I know is that you agreed with someone who was very rude and condescending to me and then proceeded to leave another comment from the same IP address using a different email. The program strives for consistancy from campus to campus, but there really is a lot of diversity within that framework! Car problem(s) ... Jun 14, 2018 - West Bend, WI - Engine TRIED TO START THE CAR AND THE TIMING CHAIN TENSIONER FAULTED CAUSING THE VALVES TO BREAK. There are so many factors to consider when choosing homeschooling materials and activities, aren’t there? If I had a suggestion, it was not taken. So with Memory Work, one thing CC does well (if one considers memory work to be as valuable as they rank it) is to encourage multiple ways of memorizing the knowledge. Try enabling this option in edit > preferences > performance and restart Photoshop. To have FREEDOM in making choices for our families. And get this. So annoying. Are you sure you want that? Many, many, many of these games are competitive in nature and rely on children being quick and able to remember word for word, zero mistakes. Our tutor put WAY more work into facilitating the education of our students than she was compensated for and in our case she certainly didn’t need any extra financial help. It’s been a long week and I really needed a word of encouragement. CONGRATULATIONS!!! I totally dropped Latin because I at 55 am just not going to learn it well enough to teach him. This is our 5th year in CC and it saved my homeschooling. Do they not look at and review other curricula? IT IS WONDERFUL!! Sure, I want them to know stuff, but I’m far more concerned with their character than the content of their brains. However, it would be a terrible fit for my daughter. When you are parenting a child who doesn’t fit the normal parameters, you look at everything very differently. Are you aware that ind discussions with a North Carolina tax assessor the company did not disclose that their communities are primarily for profit? We are new to CC and Im just not diggin it. Giving them the best doesn’t necessarily equal CC, and I had no interest in tutoring. 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