Like what is this? Absalom | And if you want travel speed, DMS Kakashi is faster than SPSM Naruto who is massively faster than Base Naruto being able to cross countries from Land of Frost/Hidden in the Frost Village to Land of Fire, Valley of the End in approximately few minutes since it happened in just 3 panels: So DMS Kakashi's travel speed is still more than enough to escape Toshiro's AOE range with ease. From Doffy being scared of Aokiji, you concluded that Aokiji somehow had the physical strength to break Doflamingo's Birdcage, which you then scaled above Zoro. Galdino, Black Cat Pirates This is the only thing reasonable thing you have said that I can completely agree with. @yuuto-jika557: u mean he should have been faster than where I put him or slower? Others: Dr. Indigo | Look, the vast majority of your post was completely unnecessary. What are their own speed feats to be able to even start the scaling? Marco is not just reacting to Kizaru's blasts, he is interceptingthem. Govenor-General: Kaido "of the Beasts" Five Elders, Celestial Dragons Hamburg | You where a lot better than your previous cavs but you can do a lot better than this , so waiting forwrd to your next cav. John, Other Pirates Wadatsumi, New World Pirate Crews Not much is known about Kuzan's past, but in the One Piece Film: Z (Non-canon) it was revealed that he, along with other high-ranking Marines, were trained by Admiral "Black-Fist" Zephyr in their early years as marines. This trend continued in his later posts, where you were persistent in arguing Toshiro at city block level. Hell, I've never seen this in any One Piece movies or filler. Charlotte Compote | Naruto being able to keep up with the third Raikage using Sage mode which is a buff that doesn't scale to overall speed when you haven't detailed the Raikage's speed. "Heavy Drinker" Vasco Shot | Im | DMS Kakashi was able to save Sakura before she gets blitz stomped by Kaguya who herself is light speed (i'll get into further details about her speed feat later on this section). Capone Bege, Other Groups Schollzo | Bellamy | Charlotte Galette | Edward Weevil | Solitaire | And seeing you argue FTL Kakashi, as you should, only reaffirmed that. It still has 2 more stages to go, Humanoid Susano'oIf Sakura could react to it, she wouldnt need saving, it's really common sense. You can see that the light beam is literally designed to be like light, So your little debunk of my feat is not true at all. The only exception was the Kenpachi scaling which proved Toshiro's raw durability was up to par, but his speed and overall power wasn't proven to be at that tier. As everyone knows aokiji should be equal to adrimal's who are in the same leauge of speed as people like Marco who reacted to multiple light beams from kizaru which if you did not know is natural. SPSM Naruto to Base Naruto is unknown and never fully stated to be a speed boost but more overall power. Wait, It's actually 22km, meaning Shunsui moved over 22km to get Away from Yamotos Reaitsu Crush. Arlong "the Saw" | Toshiro can freeze people as well by touch and the feat's shown aren't impressive. Lilly Carnation | Rokuro | Priests: Ohm | Aokiji is the only Admiral, so far, to voluntarily leave the World Government. Gekko Moriah | Naturally, I had high(er) hopes for this post of yours, thinking that you would take a new approach in representing Aokiji. After the crew arrives at an island with hostile, powerful, little nymphs, Zoro really doesn't expect one of them to kick his ass and steal his sword. It's not an amazing durability feat, and fire resistance is useless here when nobody uses fire. I facepalmed in real life when I read this. Wapol | If you wanted only them to see it, you could have easily DMed them. Miss Monday | Class filters Fighter Shooter Slasher Striker Free Spirit Cerebral Powerhouse Driven Evolver Booster Exclude Characters with other Classes Exclude Single Class Characters. It's like class. Master of the Waters, Germa 66 @highmantra_x0sp: yes, just open it since CaV is over, @leonhardt@defiant_will@mike_strike10@mattyboi@floridaman29(I forgot to tag you). That's pretty bad. Minotaurus | I would presume he means people such as Shunsui or higher-class Shinigami because the Soul King Palace is a big deal and as we know it, Shunsui comes there quite often(Read CFYOW). Manipulating ice into bigger swords doesn't do anything to Someone who's Attack Potency Is easily in the Country lane per swing. Bil02. The entire premise of your scaling was that Aokiji>Doflamingo, but you neglect that Aokiji's Devil Fruit plays a big role in that. I'm not gonna beat around the bush here, this CaV was a hot mess. Funnily enough, you only pulled out the rel-FTL stuff against Aokiji (in passing, midn you), but it was still inferior to the showings brought to the table for Kakashi. As far as I know aokiji has the best stamina in this match unless anyone can give me proof of this being wrong. CP-0 Hyena Three | Senor Pink | Sidenote, anyone who is reading your post is going to read what you are saying to them. Doflamingo confronted Aokiji but decide not to fight him and left the island with Baby 5 and Buffalo. So right off the bat, your scaling is on shaky ground. I did give reasonable feat's, Aokiji is faster than people who had light speed feat's, He fought akainu for 10 days got minor hits on him and fatal ones, people like akainu dodge's and counter's attacks from whitebeard even landing hits on him, whitebeard should be faster than marco, Aokiji also should be in the same league as milhawk who fought a 1st commander who should be equal with marco. Stussy | @epichotflame: You litterally said in your final post that we cant hit you didn't you? @epichotflame: Whats the point of giving me logia when energies are equalized we cant hit you but you can hit us that is not fair at all. Charlotte Opera | Why did Shunsui move 13km? Capturing pirates (formerly)RestingSleeping Hotori & Kotori, Franky Family Others: Daikoku | When the Buster Call came to Ohara Island, Jaguar did everything he could to protect Nico Robin, who was the child of a friend of his (who happened to be a wanted criminal for studying the Void Century); but Kuzan froze him solid, killing him. Not only does it lack mentions for it being lightspeed, but Sakura seemingly could react to the entire Object. Kakashi's spirit/soul is in his body, the body is being removed into the dimension, it never said it removes the body and leaves the soul there (if it did that then Kakashi would have died without a soul/spirit in his body to begin with) lmao. Donquixote Doflamingo, Cipher Pol Simply put, Auschwalen crossed Several million miles in a span of a conversation and isn't made of Reishi but light. Charlotte Daifuku | Replies 101 Views 1,220. Caribou | Big Pan | Now its your turn @epichotflame after your's it's mine then highmantra gets the last post. Captain: Donquixote Doflamingo Kurozumi Kanjuro, Orochi's Army Anti-Villainous Enforcer, Marine Vice Admiral (former)Associate of the Blackbeard Pirates. Le sortite dell'alleanza pirata 22 Dicembre 2013. Miss Dounglefinger | But Kakashi's arsenal was definitely proven to borderline one shot Aokiji, even if BFR is banned. This means that Aokiji has been in contact with the Blackbeard Pirates. Fujitora. Goals AdmiralKinyagi; Tuesday at 10:58 PM; 2 3. Saint Charloss | Gild Tesoro | Kuzan expressed remorse for his actions and froze a path out to sea for Robin and giving her a rowboat to escape with. This was confirmed by the Gorosei that Aokiji has become affiliated with the Blackbeard Pirates, but to what extent is unknown. ➙姿を視認できるのは, ''輪廻眼'' の持ち主のみ. At the very least you argued against Rman pretty well, but he was far from the biggest threat here. Admiral: "Blackbeard" Marshall D. Teach Kaname Tosen once stated that Hollowfication was better than Bankai and Tosen does Indeed have a Bankai himself. Toshiro scales above the Bankai Ichigo who dodged Mach 500 at close range. Tatsu | During a fight too. Flash freezing Explosions is a several Mach speed feat and you need to be able to react the the explosion point-blank as Toshiro would. Participate in epic battles alongside your favorite heroes in the fighting game Fairy Tail vs. One Piece 2.0! Beast Pirates Noko | Because he had to move Nanou outside Yamamotos Reaitsu Crush range which is, 13km. Law-sama; Saturday at 7:57 AM; 4 5 6. Hmmmmm.....Let me thin about the thing you said so basically reaction=/=light speed movement this is where I would have to disagree first off when the light beams was about to hit said whitebeard the light beam's was traveling towards him but then out of nowhere marco moves and than block's the attack you see anything there? ALL you need to do was make a case for Aokiji's freezing potency, and you did that towards the very beginning and end of your power section. Now on with the counter's haki would allow him to sense kakashi's attack's ou have people who don't have haki or use to not have haki dodgeing photon beam's which are made of light which should be light speed, Also haki can allow the user to touch people who are intangible like for example touching kizaru someone who is made of pure light. Shura | Byrnndi World | Saint Shalulia | Murder All the more Reason why Toshiro would pass through his Intangibility. That should somewhat be the distance between the Soul King Palace and Sereitei, while it may not be the actual distance, it's just a general idea of what the overall distance should somewhat be. Moving fast enough to blitz Naruto with light speed reactions is movement speed as well. Gina, Thriller Bark Pirates (Mysterious Four) Charlotte Linlin | Aokiji ate the Logia Ice-Ice Fruit which allows him to control, create and transform into ice at will. Baby 5 | Obviously I'm not voting for you. Alias Vinsmoke Niji | Also, the feat shown doesn't help him in the slightest. Monet You upped the ante a bit with speed, citing MHS feats and scaling... but what does that mean when Kakashi is FTL and Aokiji is being argued there as well. piece. Like I said, you are very lucky your opponents somehow agreed with all of this. Powers of the Hie Hie Fruit (Ice Ice Fruit)Haki Caesar Clown, Emperors' Crews He then battled the Straw Hats and froze Robin, and was about to smash her when their Captain, Monkey D. Luffy, grabbed her and gave her to his crew, who then proceeded to revive her using hot water. Kamui is a space-time ninjutsu which can be very versatile in battle. The fact that Kakashi could also use his Mangekyou Sharingan abilities while in Perfect Susano'o debunks your point of "being able to use techniques with Perfect Susano'o is headcanon" fallacy. So, if it wasn't obvious, I vote for @epichotflame here. Honey Queen | Caesar Clown | Aokiji as a logia can also not be hurt as if he shatters or if anything happen's he would just come back together as he did when whitebeard uses quake on him something that is much stronger than aokiji's own attacks which are multi mountain level. In the timeskip by just unleashing some of his power he freezes half a island with ease. The One Piece manga and anime series features an extensive cast of characters created by Eiichiro Oda.The series takes place in a fictional universe where vast numbers of pirates, soldiers, revolutionaries, and other adventurers fight each other, using various superhuman and supernatural abilities. Scratchmen Apoo | Vander Decken IX | Referee | Minorhinoceros | It was your fault for not reading the rules properly or thoroughly, and getting blindsided come closers. Ice Age: Aokiji can froze long miles of the sea and froze a Shiking. Elite Officers: Trebol | Chief: Spandam Origin Shiliew | As I pointed out on the thread, you clearly modeled this post in a way that would cover up the holes Maestro poked in your last opener. Pisaro | Jumping in the air was your counter? Jack "the Drought" Kumadori | Basil Hawkins | The Shield should be comparable to that of a City-Block with my scans. Captain: Shiki the Golden Lion Speed | Which is as baseless as it gets and you provided literally zero evidence to substantiate that. Kaguya's speed feat (blitzing SPSM Naruto multiple times making her light speed in both combat and movement speed): That's combat speed only and she purely Blitzed clones. I don't agree with Eazy at all in that regard, but I can at least remain consistent in my beliefs. No that distinction belongs to: Aokiji also should be equal with people like kaido who one shotted luffy while holding back and drunk. Itomimizu | Shunsui is the same guy in the SS arc, who shunpod a supposed 13km+. As for Toshiro (HighMantra)... well, that's where your post takes a dive in quality again. Đây cũng là lý do mà 10 năm trước, sau khi đã là một Thất Vũ Hải thì hắn đã trở về vương quốc Dressrosa ở Tân thế giới cướp ngôi vua. Powers and Abilities Devil Fruit. @epichotflame: as I said above you were pretty close to get my vote but ( then again imo) @highmantra_x0sp was slightly better when it came to countering ( I know that this sounds pretty generic but I usually try to keep it short when it comes to voting), I appreciated a lot how you countered Aokiji's "Intangibility" (even tho energy here is equalized ) using Kakashi's lightining ninjutsu and by explaining how natural lightining is hotter than flames/lava . Honestly, I didn't think this battle was fair the second I saw "DMS Kakashi" in the title. Seriously, can you cite me a single fight where Aokiji has actually traded genuine blows with someone? Can you also explain to me how that Luffy (who is massively faster than PTS Zoro) couldnt keep up with Kizaru, if PTS Zoro was really relativistic in speed? 22km, meaning Shunsui moved over 22km to get Away from Yamotos Reaitsu Crush. How Aokiji would know that Kakashi uses Chakra, and know that he has a stamina issue and exploit that mid-fight is truly beyond me. Hakuba, Non-Canoncial Mr. 5 | @the_amongus: now, I dont wanna be rude but this is the third cav ( at least the third which I read and where you partecipated , dont know tho if you did more cavs than that) where I've found hard following your posts mainly due to your formatting; I noticed some improvement but you could do a lot better (formatting-wise), then again some parts where hard to read especially your last counter where you underlined everything you said ( it took me at least three times as much to read your counter than those of the others. Boasting roughly the same abilities/talents/jutsu as the user with the Rinnegan, more over, it is an invisible, strong copy...From the point of view of the opponent, it is a great enemy with no counterattack. It's just a beam of light. Seriously, why make whole post defending Aokiji just to admit you get one shotted? Miss Merry Christmas | There was also some nitpicky problems I had like calling Doflamingo's Birdcage of all things his "base strings" when it is referred to as one of his ultimate techniques, barring Awakening. (Others: Sheepshead | Others: Bellamy | Nero Chuchun | Shadow Clones split the Chakra, between clones giving 1/2 the users normal chakra, 1/3 and etc. I was going to pick arba because she was cool but they said she was too fast. Replies 42 Views 394. All in all, Toshiro is the superior person and Aokiji would be off-screened in a few seconds by Toshiro or Kakashi while Kakashi would lose to Toshiro. You can access Sugo-Fest through the Tavern through the Rare Recruit option (which costs 5 gems per use). You understand that Byakuya back in the Shinigami arc, the stone age of bleach Broke Ichigos Soul Chain and Soul Sleep which is practically what binds something to its living Body. Kasagoba | In all honesty, I feel like your opener was a wasted post. It's not lightspeed and nothing makes it lightspeed as well. all he could do was just react to Kizaru, nothing more lmao. In terms of speed feats for the "fodders", Shawlong Kufang was able to Blitz Toshiro who could dodge Gins Shikai, Shinso at point Blank. Also, feat wise, Lillito's done nothing good in the slightest except dodge something that's Rel-FTL or so. Sasaki) Tenjirostated that it would take a week to get there with Normal Shunpo. Before I counter this I just wanna say this don't read only the @epichotflame and @highmantra_x0sp can see this. Even PTS Zoro who aokiji is MUCH MUCH faster than is reacting to kuma's blast's which is light by the wayand works in the same way as kizaru's blasts. Luffy fought as hard as he could with Kuzan but, ultimately, the battle was ended when Kuzan froze Luffy solid with a single touch. The reaction speed implications would also apply to Marco's movement speed, by principle. So I'm assuming Toshiro is just casual supersonic at best from what you showed me. He could Blitz Gerald if he wanted to and Gerald Scales above Lillito who dodged something in the Rel-FTL range depending on how fast you believe True Shikai Ichigo is in speed. "Blackbeard" Marshall D. Teach, Impel Down Staff The feat with Marco is solid enough to prove your case and I don't think your opponents did a good job arguing against it as I will get into later. Your opener concerned me at first because you weren't specific regarding Toshiro's speed and with the few things you said ( in your opener), you made him sound like a statue when compared to the other 2 characters, but you did well in your counters and explained fairly well how fast Toshiro really was. Kuzan Also having energies equalized mean's like for example haki being equalized with your energy and chakra being equalized with haki this means I can just be hit and killed by any of your attack's and you cant really hit kakashi if that's the case but who know's. Ikaros Much | In Doflamingo's fight, he almost kills Smoker but Aokiji came, he gave Doflamingo a warn but Doflamingo still attack, then Aokiji froze him. 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